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This Seasons’s Braggarts
05-17-2018, 07:59 AM,
#31
RE: This Seasons’s Braggarts
"Keep in mind that EVERY theory is ONLY as good as the assumptions that went into it. "

"methods to rank the counties."

So is the assumption that the location, the name, or both in regards to the counties is significant?

I'm not seeing how counties will help since they can be changed, renamed, or removed altogether within the next 1000 years.

Could you remove all names on signs and maps and still find the treasure and Fenn said yes is something of a quote I can remember.
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05-17-2018, 08:21 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-17-2018, 08:34 AM by heyoka.)
#32
RE: This Seasons’s Braggarts
tarryscant pulled up nothing of the sort

where do you remember the quote from?
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05-17-2018, 09:03 AM,
#33
RE: This Seasons’s Braggarts
(05-17-2018, 07:59 AM)filmguy Wrote: "Keep in mind that EVERY theory is ONLY as good as the assumptions that went into it. "

"methods to rank the counties."

So is the assumption that the location, the name, or both in regards to the counties is significant?

I'm not seeing how counties will help since they can be changed, renamed, or removed altogether within the next 1000 years.

Could you remove all names on signs and maps and still find the treasure and Fenn said yes is something of a quote I can remember.

I believe he took the elements from the poem and looked for places named within each county with those elements. With respect to county - it's not a clue in JB's method from what I understand. In my solve it's a secondary meaning (creek literally ends, and it just happens to be in a county's name that is synonymous with halt).

The last sentence you wrote seems nonsensical and would make the poem impossible to solve. The capitalization of Brown makes the statement sound false. The only way it'd be true even with taking Brown out of the equation is if there was a singular warm water defined within the context of the poem which branched out to many end points (the Gulf of Mexico tributaries theory). Otherwise, you'd need a map with names or a more detailed map with temperatures.
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05-17-2018, 09:30 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-17-2018, 09:32 AM by filmguy.)
#34
RE: This Seasons’s Braggarts
"The last sentence you wrote seems nonsensical and would make the poem impossible to solve. The capitalization of Brown makes the statement sound false. The only way it'd be true even with taking Brown out of the equation is if there was a singular warm water defined within the context of the poem which branched out to many end points (the Gulf of Mexico tributaries theory). Otherwise, you'd need a map with names or a more detailed map with temperatures."

Not true, see the Charlie Brown theory.
I'm sure there's other cases.
If you think it makes the poem impossible to solve, then its likely you are thinking of HOB in completely the wrong way. Most people probably are, hence no chest yet.
Let's not forget, by the time you are at HOB you are BTOG and not in India or on a computer.
I'm 100% certain HOB is the part that requires imagination, that a kid could help solve, but that's me. I don't believe Fenn gave people the easy way out by having it refer to Brown Creek or Brown Canyon or Brown Farm. (Of course excluding any reference to any person named Brown as that would be "specialized knowledge")
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05-17-2018, 09:48 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-17-2018, 10:12 AM by realistrealist.)
#35
RE: This Seasons’s Braggarts
(05-17-2018, 09:30 AM)filmguy Wrote: "The last sentence you wrote seems nonsensical and would make the poem impossible to solve. The capitalization of Brown makes the statement sound false. The only way it'd be true even with taking Brown out of the equation is if there was a singular warm water defined within the context of the poem which branched out to many end points (the Gulf of Mexico tributaries theory). Otherwise, you'd need a map with names or a more detailed map with temperatures."

Not true, see the Charlie Brown theory.
I'm sure there's other cases.
If you think it makes the poem impossible to solve, then its likely you are thinking of HOB in completely the wrong way. Most people probably are, hence no chest yet.
Let's not forget, by the time you are at HOB you are BTOG and not in India or on a computer.
I'm 100% certain HOB is the part that requires imagination, that a kid could help solve, but that's me. I don't believe Fenn gave people the easy way out by having it refer to Brown Creek or Brown Canyon or Brown Farm. (Of course excluding any reference to any person named Brown as that would be "specialized knowledge")

Charlie Brown Colorado Springs theory? That requires a name of a city/town on a map, doesn't it? 1,000 years from now it could be wiped off a map? Not mentioning it would require additional information?

"Let's not forget, by the time you are at HOB you are BTOG and not in India or on a computer."

And that is likely where the trick is. You are thinking small when you should probably be thinking big. If I ask you where you are from, what will your answer be?

"#### Street" or "State"? Think of when you were growing up as a kid and how you'd respond in different circumstances to where you were from. Think about TV shows now and where people say they are from. Where would you say the home of Fenn is? Above a pile of dirt? South of Brown Trout? Or simply Santa Fe, NM?

Then, if Fenn is using chremamorphism, he may simply be applying a personal attribute ("home") to a proper noun landscape feature ("Brown"). Most care more about what Brown is then what appears more important, home. The boundaries of home are more important in precisely identifying a spot than the landscape feature which could be 360 degrees (or 180 degrees if South) area surrounding it IMO.
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05-17-2018, 09:57 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-17-2018, 10:01 AM by filmguy.)
#36
RE: This Seasons’s Braggarts
No, looking for a rock formation that looks like Snoopy or Charlie Brown. Or rock layers that look like Charlie Brown's shirt. Something along those lines.

How often do you think Fenn has driven or (as a kid) been the passenger in a car driving up and down the Rockies? How often do you think his mind wonders?

HOB will be discover while driving and using one's imagination in, around or through the correct canyon down. Not on a map, not on the internet, not with BOTG. At least that's my theory.

Which is the most likely scenario?

That an eccentric man hid a million dollars of his money and:
1) Gave us the exact name of something to go to or
2) Gave us the name of something he's labeled, in his mind, using his own imagination
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05-17-2018, 10:08 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-17-2018, 10:09 AM by realistrealist.)
#37
RE: This Seasons’s Braggarts
(05-17-2018, 09:57 AM)filmguy Wrote: No, looking for a rock formation that looks like Snoopy or Charlie Brown. Or rock layers that look like Charlie Brown's shirt. Something along those lines.

How often do you think Fenn has driven or (as a kid) been the passenger in a car driving up and down the Rockies? How often do you think his mind wonders?

HOB will be discover while driving and using one's imagination in, around or through the correct canyon down. Not on a map, not on the internet, not with BOTG. At least that's my theory.

Which is the most likely scenario?

That an eccentric man hid a million dollars of his money and:
1) Gave us the exact name of something to go to or
2) Gave us the name of something he's labeled, in his mind, using his own imagination

And you'd find it how? It'd be impossible. Children aren't thinking about Snoopy or Charlie Brown nowadays anyways.

What did he say about the answer to where it is would surprise people?

I think it's 1; he gave the exact name and he wrote the poem in a way to lead people to the wrong assumptions.
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05-17-2018, 11:17 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-17-2018, 11:18 AM by heyoka.)
#38
RE: This Seasons’s Braggarts
(05-17-2018, 09:30 AM)filmguy Wrote: "The last sentence you wrote seems nonsensical and would make the poem impossible to solve. The capitalization of Brown makes the statement sound false. The only way it'd be true even with taking Brown out of the equation is if there was a singular warm water defined within the context of the poem which branched out to many end points (the Gulf of Mexico tributaries theory). Otherwise, you'd need a map with names or a more detailed map with temperatures."

Not true, see the Charlie Brown theory.
I'm sure there's other cases.
If you think it makes the poem impossible to solve, then its likely you are thinking of HOB in completely the wrong way. Most people probably are, hence no chest yet.
Let's not forget, by the time you are at HOB you are BTOG and not in India or on a computer.
I'm 100% certain HOB is the part that requires imagination, that a kid could help solve, but that's me. I don't believe Fenn gave people the easy way out by having it refer to Brown Creek or Brown Canyon or Brown Farm. (Of course excluding any reference to any person named Brown as that would be "specialized knowledge")

what if Brown was the temperature and water had nothing to do with where you begin though?

you sound like a specialist
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05-17-2018, 11:30 AM,
#39
This Seasons’s Braggarts
(05-17-2018, 09:57 AM)filmguy Wrote: No, looking for a rock formation that looks like Snoopy or Charlie Brown. Or rock layers that look like Charlie Brown's shirt. Something along those lines.

How often do you think Fenn has driven or (as a kid) been the passenger in a car driving up and down the Rockies? How often do you think his mind wonders?

HOB will be discover while driving and using one's imagination in, around or through the correct canyon down. Not on a map, not on the internet, not with BOTG. At least that's my theory.

Which is the most likely scenario?

That an eccentric man hid a million dollars of his money and:
1) Gave us the exact name of something to go to or
2) Gave us the name of something he's labeled, in his mind, using his own imagination


I know a feature that looks exactly like snoopy.


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05-17-2018, 11:35 AM,
#40
RE: This Seasons’s Braggarts
(05-17-2018, 11:30 AM)Mindy Wrote:
(05-17-2018, 09:57 AM)filmguy Wrote: No, looking for a rock formation that looks like Snoopy or Charlie Brown. Or rock layers that look like Charlie Brown's shirt. Something along those lines.

How often do you think Fenn has driven or (as a kid) been the passenger in a car driving up and down the Rockies? How often do you think his mind wonders?

HOB will be discover while driving and using one's imagination in, around or through the correct canyon down. Not on a map, not on the internet, not with BOTG. At least that's my theory.

Which is the most likely scenario?

That an eccentric man hid a million dollars of his money and:
1) Gave us the exact name of something to go to or
2) Gave us the name of something he's labeled, in his mind, using his own imagination


I know a feature that looks exactly like snoopy.


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You keep your Hello-Kitty away from my Snoopy Mindy LOL
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