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"My war for me"... The North American F-100, The HUN-dred or Century Fighter + CIA Missions ?
03-04-2014, 01:49 PM,
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"My war for me"... The North American F-100, The HUN-dred or Century Fighter + CIA Missions ?
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Forrest was SHOT down on his LAST MISSION in LAOS, until a 4-Star General approved a new FINAL MISSION, on the condition Forrest's plane was kept in SOUTH VIETNAM...

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03-06-2014, 10:34 AM,
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"My war for me"... The North American F-100, The HUN-dred or Century Fighter + CIA Missions ?
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Forrest Fenn's Last Mission Hose down, 1968

[Image: forrest-last-mission-2-small.jpg]

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Pentagon figures show that combat loses by the U S Air Force during the Vietnam conflict were 1,695 aircraft. That doesn’t include another 442 planes that were lost due to systems malfunction, weather and other non-combat situations. By far, the greatest losses were fighters, with 1,239 being shot down or otherwise destroyed by direct enemy action. Army, Navy, Marine and South Vietnam Air Force losses are not included.



The scenery around Tuy Hoa Air Base on the central coast of South Vietnam where I spent a year was right out of National Geographic Magazine. The beautiful South China Sea lapped the beach only 300 feet from where I slept. It was never cold, it didn’t get hot and the daily rains soaked straight into sandy loam. Plentiful grasses grew tall and fresh water flowed in great abundance. Many of the trees stretched to the sky. That place was a paradise. The last thing one would normally think about was blowing it up or burning it down.



We jumped into that conflict and didn’t know how to get out. An old axiom says that those who don’t study the past are doomed to repeat it. Well, we’ve studied our past conflicts over and over and we’re still doing the same old thing.



We fought the war in Korea and lost, and those folks didn’t attack us. We suffered 128,650 human causalities.



We fought the war in Vietnam and lost, and those folks didn’t attack us. We suffered 211,454 human causalities.



The final outcome of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is yet to be written, but neither of those countries are capable of attacking us with a military force. So far we’ve suffered 49,017 total human causalities and counting. If we win those wars I’m not sure what we’ll have to show for it. When are going to stop policing the world?



We certainly need to keep supporting our troops in all ways possible. And perhaps it’s time for us as citizens and voters to insert more influence on those in our government who are making the big decisions. Our cry should be “Let’s just leave other folks alone unless they attack us.” And if they do, let’s not fight back with rifles and hand grenades. It’s stupid for so many young men and women to be killed by land mines, roadside bombs and snipers when we have such awesome technologies available.



If you are interested, here are the Air Force losses in Vietnam by aircraft type.



A-1 Skyraider – 150



A-7D Corsair II – 4



A-26 Invader – 22



A-37 Dragonfly – 22



A-47 Spooky – 12



AC-119 Shadow/Stinger – 2



AC-130 Spectre – 6



B-52 Stratofortress – 17



B-57 Camberra – 37



C-7 Caribou – 9



C-47 Skytrain – 21



C-123 Provider – 21



C-130 Hercules – 34



E/RB-66 Destroyer – 14



F-4 Phantom II – 382



F-5 Freedom Fighter – 9



F-100 Super Sabre 198 (2 were mine)



F-102 Delta Dagger – 7



F-104 Starfighter – 9



F-105 Thunderchief – 283



F-105F/G Thunderchief (Wild Weasel) – 37



F-111 Aardvark – 6



HU-16 Albatross – 2



0-1 Bird Dog – 122



0-2 Skymaster – 82



OV-10 Bronco – 47



QU-22 Pave Eagle – 7



RF-4C Phantom II – 76



RF-101 Voodoo – 33



T-28 Trojan – 23



U-3B Blue Canoe – 1



U-10D Courier – 1



Impressive isn’t it? f



http://www.oldsantafetradingco.com/blog/...in-trouble

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03-07-2014, 04:17 PM,
#3
"My war for me"... The North American F-100, The HUN-dred or Century Fighter + CIA Missions ?
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If you are interested, here are the Air Force losses in Vietnam by aircraft type.

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... F-100 Super Sabre 198 ( <b>2 were mine</b> ) ... 8O

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03-07-2014, 11:43 PM,
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"My war for me"... The North American F-100, The HUN-dred or Century Fighter + CIA Missions ?
interesting and fun to watch
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03-09-2014, 05:36 PM,
#5
"My war for me"... The North American F-100, The HUN-dred or Century Fighter + CIA Missions ?
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Forrest was SHOT down on his LAST MISSION in LAOS, until a 4-Star General approved a new FINAL MISSION, on the condition Forrest's plane was kept in SOUTH VIETNAM...

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03-11-2014, 08:00 AM,
#6
"My war for me"... The North American F-100, The HUN-dred or Century Fighter + CIA Missions ?
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<b>Quote from John Brown on March 10, 2014, 10:24 pm</b>
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<b>Quote from SantaFe on March 10, 2014, 9:47 pm</b>
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<b>Quote from John Brown on March 10, 2014, 8:21 pm</b>
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<b>Quote from mdc777 on March 10, 2014, 11:52 am</b>

everything FF says is technically true but misleading.
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It isn't technically true that he was shot down twice in 18 days. it isn't technically true that he flew however many missions he said he flew in TTOTC. Or do you have knowledge to the contrary?</div>
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Well, were the number of missions and shoot downs at least <b>"CLOSE ENOUGH FOR GOVERNMENT WORK"</b> that "they don't impact unfavorably on the chase" ?



http://www.chasechat.com/chat/?minglefor...pic&t=1206



Forrest does not seem to be a big fan of the Vietnam War, nor any war where politicians send men to die in countries that didn't attack us first...



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I don't know how they impact. The number of days was 118 not 18. Big difference there. The number of missions is who knows. All I know is that in January 1969 he told the Lubbock Avalanche that his last flight was number 305 flown on Dec 22 1968.</div>
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<b>Quote from deb on March 11, 2014, 12:31 am</b>

Guys the number of flights is related to what he cant talk about. Didnt you read up on the forward air controllers? Part of the CIA. Interesting reading.
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Did Forrest fly <b>CIA Missions</b> that "<b>never happened</b>" so to speak... when he was "off-duty"... how OFFICIAL can "off-duty" be... like those trips into LAOS ( which was <b>"officially" OFF-LIMITS</b> )?



Page 81 <b>TTOTC When "off duty" I flew a number of missions with Forward Air Controllers like Dan Harshman.</b> Are these counted as OFFICIAL if Forrest was "off-duty" ?

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03-11-2014, 01:00 PM,
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"My war for me"... The North American F-100, The HUN-dred or Century Fighter + CIA Missions ?
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My flight logs reveal that I flew 328 combat missions. 274 in the F-100 and rest were with forward air controllers in small spotter aircraft. Those missions were to direct air strikes on enemy targets f

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03-11-2014, 04:38 PM,
#8
"My war for me"... The North American F-100, The HUN-dred or Century Fighter + CIA Missions ?
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page 76 = 274 This is correct, I flew 274 in the F-100 as stated in the book. f

page 78 = 326 This is correct. I had flown 326 at that point, and then flew 2 more, as stated in the book. f

Page 96 = 328 This figure is correct as explained above. f

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03-30-2014, 12:58 PM,
#9
"My war for me"... The North American F-100, The HUN-dred or Century Fighter + CIA Missions ?
[Image: url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&docid=TAZgu_B...2069332018]
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04-26-2014, 06:36 AM,
#10
"My war for me"... The North American F-100, The HUN-dred or Century Fighter + CIA Missions ?


<div class="bbcode_quote_head">Quote:
<b>Quote from SantaFe on March 6, 2014, 10:34 am</b>

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Forrest Fenn's Last Mission Hose down, 1968

[Image: forrest-last-mission-2-small.jpg]

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Pentagon figures show that combat loses by the U S Air Force during the Vietnam conflict were 1,695 aircraft. That doesn’t include another 442 planes that were lost due to systems malfunction, weather and other non-combat situations. By far, the greatest losses were fighters, with 1,239 being shot down or otherwise destroyed by direct enemy action. Army, Navy, Marine and South Vietnam Air Force losses are not included.



The scenery around Tuy Hoa Air Base on the central coast of South Vietnam where I spent a year was right out of National Geographic Magazine. The beautiful South China Sea lapped the beach only 300 feet from where I slept. It was never cold, it didn’t get hot and the daily rains soaked straight into sandy loam. Plentiful grasses grew tall and fresh water flowed in great abundance. Many of the trees stretched to the sky. That place was a paradise. The last thing one would normally think about was blowing it up or burning it down.



We jumped into that conflict and didn’t know how to get out. An old axiom says that those who don’t study the past are doomed to repeat it. Well, we’ve studied our past conflicts over and over and we’re still doing the same old thing.



We fought the war in Korea and lost, and those folks didn’t attack us. We suffered 128,650 human causalities.



We fought the war in Vietnam and lost, and those folks didn’t attack us. We suffered 211,454 human causalities.



The final outcome of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is yet to be written, but neither of those countries are capable of attacking us with a military force. So far we’ve suffered 49,017 total human causalities and counting. If we win those wars I’m not sure what we’ll have to show for it. When are going to stop policing the world?



We certainly need to keep supporting our troops in all ways possible. And perhaps it’s time for us as citizens and voters to insert more influence on those in our government who are making the big decisions. Our cry should be “Let’s just leave other folks alone unless they attack us.” And if they do, let’s not fight back with rifles and hand grenades. It’s stupid for so many young men and women to be killed by land mines, roadside bombs and snipers when we have such awesome technologies available.



If you are interested, here are the Air Force losses in Vietnam by aircraft type.



A-1 Skyraider – 150



A-7D Corsair II – 4



A-26 Invader – 22



A-37 Dragonfly – 22



A-47 Spooky – 12



AC-119 Shadow/Stinger – 2



AC-130 Spectre – 6



B-52 Stratofortress – 17



B-57 Camberra – 37



C-7 Caribou – 9



C-47 Skytrain – 21



C-123 Provider – 21



C-130 Hercules – 34



E/RB-66 Destroyer – 14



F-4 Phantom II – 382



F-5 Freedom Fighter – 9



F-100 Super Sabre 198 (2 were mine)



F-102 Delta Dagger – 7



F-104 Starfighter – 9



F-105 Thunderchief – 283



F-105F/G Thunderchief (Wild Weasel) – 37



F-111 Aardvark – 6



HU-16 Albatross – 2



0-1 Bird Dog – 122



0-2 Skymaster – 82



OV-10 Bronco – 47



QU-22 Pave Eagle – 7



RF-4C Phantom II – 76



RF-101 Voodoo – 33



T-28 Trojan – 23



U-3B Blue Canoe – 1



U-10D Courier – 1



Impressive isn’t it? f



http://www.oldsantafetradingco.com/blog/...in-trouble

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Interesting photo of his hose down. Brings back memories.
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