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Is it really possible to remain anonymous?
03-06-2014, 12:43 PM,
#1
Is it really possible to remain anonymous?
If you find the treasure and want to enjoy the wealth without paying the taxes, is it really possible to do that and remain anonymous? Won't a gold dealer wonder where and perhaps inquire where the large placer nuggets came from? Perhaps with some research he could figure out the connection to Mr. Fenn's treasure. Then of course he would think it more valuable because of the connection and advertise it, thus leading back to you for confirmation.



Could you really sell the jewelry without being discovered?



It seems to me that you would be dependent on a lot of people to either not say anything or to be ignorant of where it possibly came from. Wouldn't sooner or later someone put it together? Either a dealer or an inquisitive buyer? Perhaps posting photos and inquiries on the web for assistance.



Is that why there are no photos of the jewelry and other items that are supposedly in the chest? No visual history of the uncommon items? And that beautiful chest. You couldn't possibly display it without inquiries. You certainly wouldn't want to hide it in the closet. Could you sell it and keep it quiet? Who would buy it without knowing it's history. Certainly they would want to display it in their home. Could they do that without their neighbor asking about it?



Is it really possible in today's world to find the chest and not be found yourself?



jdh
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03-06-2014, 12:48 PM,
#2
Is it really possible to remain anonymous?
There has always been a black market for gold, where buyers will pay a premium in cash. You just have to find one.
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03-06-2014, 01:20 PM,
#3
Is it really possible to remain anonymous?
I play the lottery every once in a while. I don't worry about the Tax part as much, as why do folks go and have their pic taken with a 6' check and tell the world... Hey, I have 100 million Dollars every one. The simple answer to that dilemma is to put it in to a trust under another name and skip the pic. But, I'm not going to worry about what I don't have, Until I have it to worry about.
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03-06-2014, 03:36 PM,
#4
Is it really possible to remain anonymous?
My guess is yes, but the price will be high. I can not name you anyone who won the lottery, publishers clearing house. They remain nameless to me. Even the singer who lives for the applause, I don't know her real name. I live in a personal property tax state so that's another aspect. However, short of moving out of country, I imagine there are strategies for

minimizing taxes, maybe a lead charitable trust. I am told that some places that buy gold do not give fair market price so many costly pitfalls to be aware.
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03-06-2014, 04:23 PM,
#5
Is it really possible to remain anonymous?
The jewelry and the chest will be nearly impossible to sell without giving away the game. I have sold rare and valuable coins in the past, and placer gold too (though not such large nuggets). All dealers will require a photo ID and possibly a fingerprint before they will cut you a check. Most dealers are regulated similarly to pawn shops, and there is no real way of getting around the regulations. But selling the gold off in small quantities over time may keep you under the radar.



Seriously though, the real value in the treasure is in it's association with the chase and Forrest. By piecing it out under the table I'm sure you'll never get anywhere near even the after-tax value of selling the entire treasure at a well publicized auction. Plus there are all the other secondary money-making ventures you would be missing out on by remaining anonymous. Think book deals, movie rights, speaking tours, product endorsements, etc. Plus the bragging rights of being able to claim you were the one who solved the riddle. Priceless.



mdavis19
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03-06-2014, 10:13 PM,
#6
Is it really possible to remain anonymous?


<div class="bbcode_quote_head">Quote:
<b>Quote from jdh on March 6, 2014, 12:43 pm</b>

It seems to me that you would be dependent on a lot of people
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Why a lot? Why not just one? i.e. why not hire one reputable, licensed professional for the disposition of the treasure, similar to how the $10M hoard finders hired Kagin. Fenn's hoard is a little different because it is more than just coins, so there may need to be jewelry/ancient artifact experts involved, but you'd still only need to share your identity with one person, and he/she could be responsible for interacting with other specialists. I'm guessing, but it seems reasonable to me, that a reputable, licensed professional would be able to sell items and not be subject to "pawn shop rules," and would allow for the true owner(s) to remain anonymous.



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03-06-2014, 10:21 PM,
#7
Is it really possible to remain anonymous?
Seems to me with all the pro-treasure hunters on the forum, someone would have a logical answer to this question. or at least share their experience on how they have done it in the past with their own booty.
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03-06-2014, 11:57 PM,
#8
Is it really possible to remain anonymous?
anonymous? that should be easy for Nobody cause I have no body or booty!
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03-07-2014, 07:34 AM,
#9
Is it really possible to remain anonymous?
The more I look at this the more I feel it is next to impossible to remain anonymous. FF has set this up is such a way as the only option is to get permission from the land owner and go get it and return the bracelet to him. That is how he will know. There are always ways to pull it off, but you will have to be prepared to break the law and the consequences. Breaking the law by trespassing to take a short cut will not be looked at the same as trespassing to purposely remove a $2 million in treasure. If found out (FF could release the location), you could risk loosing it all.

The Wolf
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03-07-2014, 08:00 AM,
#10
Is it really possible to remain anonymous?


<div class="bbcode_quote_head">Quote:
<b>Quote from Tim Nobody on March 6, 2014, 11:57 pm</b>

anonymous? that should be easy for Nobody cause I have no body or booty!
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Well, Tim, don't get your <b>NO-HORSEY before the CART</b>...



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At least you could be consistent... Make that THREE threads... 8O



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