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Are there hints in the scrapbook posts?
12-11-2014, 08:21 AM,
#21
Are there hints in the scrapbook posts?
@PL289 - Smile I'm with you on this!



Have to also say - I enjoy your 1972 "Mash" quote from the Doctor! One of my favorite shows!
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12-11-2014, 01:20 PM,
#22
Are there hints in the scrapbook posts?


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<b>Quote from Retired Postmaster on December 10, 2014, 9:05 am</b>

For those who have read Scrapbook 113 on Dal's site, I was wondering if anyone else saw his lure named Pickles as a metaphor for the big largemouth bass who was introduced in Scrapbook 73 last spring?



Perhaps "The Attraction of Pickles" is just a fun read or is Forrest speaking (metaphorically) about that "bass"?



Besides all the thoughts that the word "lure/lore" can conjure, it is interesting to note that, although Pickles is referred to as a "he" by Forrest, it doesn't rule out the whole "he/she" question again..



-Pickles keeps "his talent well hidden".....shhh!



-Pickles, now retired (on a bookshelf), is keeping his distance (in the search) from the others. Another interpretation is that "he" is outdistancing all the others in their progress.



-Not sure what is meant that "he floats when I leave him alone...."



Or, it really could just be a fun story about his lure named Pickles! You think?
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I think it is interesting how we each see things. :-)



I guess I just saw it more as a ANOTHER entertaining story. But, there is also the other side of me, that WILL always cast my eye and swivel for clues. :-) There appears to be a couple of layers here. So, for me, perhaps, 'Pickles' could be a searcher or maybe it is ff himself? And the poem being his main lure, .....nothing fancy, but like oak will stand the test of time and with wisdom and allure will drive the other fish crazy. And once again, .....he gets what he wants. He always catches someone, I mean something!! :-) Gotta remember, he's been doing this his whole life. .....But what caught my attention more and had me squinting, was his use of the word 'proximity' AGAIN. This time in reference to 'Pickles' and the other lures .....they aren't too far away from each other are they? :-) And when observing the books directly below the lures and the "honored place on a bookshelf", we have a book with the word 'Treasures' and two others with a picture of 'Barb Wire' on them. Then, under the "cousins, once removed" we see what looks like trees(might have something else to do with 'Oak', don't know?) ........All things that have been mentioned before.



But yes, probably just another fun read......... Hey, another word for fun is DIVERTING. :-)








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12-11-2014, 02:07 PM,
#23
Are there hints in the scrapbook posts?
I went on my sixtieth exploration yesterday. It is still pretty mild out here in these parts .....for now. :-) Searched for probably a good 4 or 5 hours. I still haven't figured out a way to get the EXACT location from the poem, so this is my only alternative, besides, I guess, not searching for it at all. I always enjoy getting out in the 'wood' regardless. And I surely find something of value no matter what, whether it be an artifact, a picture, or just a moment. It's all fun!! Hell, I can have a good time doing just about anything. :-) ..........But, I'm kinda just starting to wonder if this whole thing is solvable?? I mean, I've never doubted whether it is out there or ff being honorable or trustworthy, but I gotta say, I've found a lot of things in my time, and some pretty valuable things and many very difficult to find, .....but with regard to this and just going by this POEM to solve it, .....it's beginning to seem a little bit out of reach. Now, I don't mean to diminish or down play anyone else's talents or solves :-) .....but this whole thing may, just may be, .....too much with too little to go on. Too vague with too much area to cover. Mr. Fenn may be able to see his reflection in the water :-) and that is fine, but for me, right now, .....all I see is mud. The hazy outline of a metal mirror with no end in sight. But perhaps that is what was intended..........



That's just me though. Just saying.......... By all means, good luck to all who travel down this road!! Do it for the adventure and for getting outdoors, if you don't much, and share the experience with someone else if possible. Personally, I have thoroughly enjoyed all of this myself. And I will never stop exploring and searching for new things. It's just what I like to do. :-) .....Just don't know how much more I'm going to search for this though.



Peeeeeeeeeeeeace

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12-12-2014, 06:42 AM,
#24
Are there hints in the scrapbook posts?
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As the subject of this thread caught my eye, just yesterday Forrest's Scrapbook 113 was posted. "lures".



http://dalneitzel.com/2014/12/08/scrapbo...-thirteen/



I would find it stretching the odds, that the book



<b>Treasures of ...</b>



just happened to find its way into the left margin.



Although, it is more a post-facto recognition of the hint.



astree



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12-12-2014, 07:46 AM,
#25
Are there hints in the scrapbook posts?


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<b>Quote from PL289 on December 12, 2014, 7:03 am</b>

Yup. Lots of product placement going on in the menagerie he calls a home. Kinda like Elf on the Shelf ff style.
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lol, we spent quite a bit of time the other day, looking for my daughter's Elf on the Shelf. Smile



( now she carries it everywhere )
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12-12-2014, 10:15 AM,
#26
Are there hints in the scrapbook posts?


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<b>Quote from astree on December 12, 2014, 6:42 am</b>

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As the subject of this thread caught my eye, just yesterday Forrest's Scrapbook 113 was posted. "lures".



http://dalneitzel.com/2014/12/08/scrapbo...-thirteen/



I would find it stretching the odds, that the book



<b>Treasures of ...</b>



just happened to find its way into the left margin.



Although, it is more a post-facto recognition of the hint.



astree


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Forrest also in this thread talks about the lure going under the surface . I think there is more going on under the surface than what a person thinks.
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12-12-2014, 04:55 PM,
#27
Are there hints in the scrapbook posts?


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<b>Quote from Woody Bogg on December 12, 2014, 10:15 am</b>
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<b>Quote from astree on December 12, 2014, 6:42 am</b>

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As the subject of this thread caught my eye, just yesterday Forrest's Scrapbook 113 was posted. "lures".



http://dalneitzel.com/2014/12/08/scrapbo...-thirteen/



I would find it stretching the odds, that the book



<b>Treasures of ...</b>



just happened to find its way into the left margin.



Although, it is more a post-facto recognition of the hint.



astree

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Forrest also in this thread talks about the lure going under the surface . I think there is more going on under the surface than what a person thinks.</div>
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I think so too, Woody. In several ways.



,,,,,,,,,,,,,,



( following from the Fandango puzzle, caps and lines, as quoted )





-together. Man

And Nature. Myth and history! Understand?

I mean, there’s more here than the surfaces.



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(negativ...he_Mu-koan







astree
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12-13-2014, 09:09 AM,
#28
Are there hints in the scrapbook posts?


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<b>Quote from PL289 on December 12, 2014, 6:14 pm</b>
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<b>Quote from Woody Bogg on December 12, 2014, 10:15 am</b>





Forrest also in this thread talks about the lure going under the surface . I think there is more going on under the surface than what a person thinks.
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Could be a reference to getting under the skin of searchers. Or a reference to there being more in his SB posting than meets the eye. Everything the guy says and writes is taken ten different ways before his keyboard has cooled off. That seems to be the nature of the beast and I'm sure he knows it. F seems to be having fun nudging along someone or some people. I hope I'm having that much fun at his age. Regardless, they people he's fiddling on don't know his motives, so why should anyone else.</div>
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Seems likely.



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I think he believes and hopes someone is close. But we all know how the terrain looks when you get feet on the ground. Things tend to change and it's easy to miss a lot.
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Why I believe he emphasizes an exact solve before making the trip.



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Hell, I almost misplaced a kid somewhere near Raton, and we were at a McDonald's, on our way to the mountains. Haha. Don't worry, my wife lost her in Mexico when the kid was 3. She's a wanderer...kinda like ff.
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Brings back memories. Smile
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12-15-2014, 10:07 AM,
#29
Are there hints in the scrapbook posts?
I'm not sure if this is relevant or if I'm just reading too much into it, but I sent Forrest an email back on Dec 10th. asking him a couple questions. Now I see the last section of Scrapbook 114, "The fact is I never fished with any of my hand-painted poppers, and that’s the truth. There was no way a slippery sided smallmouth black bass was going to scratch the paint on my special, sculptural artforms. That’d be tantamount to messing with my poem.", and I wonder if he was eluding to what I sent him??



I know I may get flamed for this, but here is a portion of what I sent him (Yes, I know he said not to mess w/ the poem Tongue )...



<b><i>Would you mind telling me if my interpretation/translation of your poem is correct. To help myself try and understand what the poem is saying I have translated it into a less poetic form. I know you advised not to mess with the poem, but I don’t feel that I have. Maybe just restated it in lay-man’s terms!



When I hid the treasure I was alone

The treasure is some of my most valued possessions

I alone know where the treasure is, but I will not tell

I will provide some hints. The treasure contains items both new and old



Start where the warm water halts

Travel down through the canyon

Not too far of a distance, but too far to walk

Enter the water below the home of Brown



From here, it is no place for the meek

The end is coming closer

There’ll be no paddle up your creek

Just heavy loads and water high



If you have solved the verses above and located the blaze

Look directly down, you have found the secret spot

Don’t stay too long admiring the treasure

Take the treasure and leave quietly



So why have I gone to that secret spot

And left my treasure for all to seek?

I know exactly why I have done this…

I have lived a full life, and now I’m growing older



So pay close attention to my words

Your effort will be worth the cold

If you are brave and found the secret spot in the wooded area

Take the treasure.</i></b>



I never received a reply back from Mr. Fenn, FWIW.



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12-15-2014, 11:36 AM,
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Are there hints in the scrapbook posts?


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"There was no way a slippery sided smallmouth black bass was going to scratch the paint on my special, sculptural artforms. That’d be tantamount to messing with my poem."
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Yep, that is your response. The smallmouth black bass will never scratch the surface of the poppers(poem).
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