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The "find his car" Conundrum
09-10-2017, 10:09 AM,
The "find his car" Conundrum
In 2012, it was written by a news reporter(Tony Doukopil) that Forrest Fenn said:

"So when Forrest puts his body next to the treasure and dies he’s afraid that people will find his car and the location of the car would be Northern Arizona University. So there could be some significance to Northern Arizona University."

and now, in the Foreword written by Doug Preston of Forrest's 3rd memoir, presumably approved by Forrest, it is to be published in this book that Forrest said-

"The final clue, he said, would be where they found his car: in the parking lot of the Denver Museum of Nature and Science."

Kind of hard to claim this one is misdefined, broadly defined, or "not taken in context".

So which is it? Is it Arizona or Denver? I am eager to hear the explanations for this Conundrum by those who emplore semantics.
09-10-2017, 10:24 AM,
RE: The "find his car" Conundrum
the poem had been changed sense Preston had seen it the first time and from the first time Forrest showed him the chest witch means the final clue was also changed. and he would not leave a car behind at all. but to hide the chest then when the time came take a taxi and be Dropped off and go die with it. with no car to be found !
09-10-2017, 10:36 AM,
RE: The "find his car" Conundrum
How about this gem:

"No one has any secret information that will take them to the hiding place. It’s in the poem for all to see.f"
09-10-2017, 10:36 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-10-2017, 10:40 AM by eYe4-1.)
RE: The "find his car" Conundrum
maybe the final clue had been changed and he would not go to the Museum at all.

or if he did leave a car behind how would he get to where he needed to go to be with the treasure. and have know one know where he really went ?
09-10-2017, 11:34 AM,
The "find his car" Conundrum
I find it clear now that Ff is intentionally creating as much noise and misdirection as possible to prevent the TC from being found. IMO.


09-10-2017, 02:15 PM,
The "find his car" Conundrum
(09-10-2017, 01:41 PM)Milan Wrote: [IMO]
As the person who will end the Chase soon, I assure you Fenn has been a straight shooter from the beginning. Yes, he has given out extra hints, but he goes out of his way to be fair to everyone and he makes sure that the hints are available to everyone. However, many of his hints are only meaningful to searchers who have already gotten past certain points of the poem/riddle.

I can say without a doubt that Fenn has not mislead, misdirected, nor has he been unfair. I say this with 20/20 hindsight and because I have the benefit of being at the blaze portion of the riddle (been there for a very long time).

Before you attack me, realize that this entire block is tagged as "IMO", and you have the choice to ignore this post.



So when are you going to get it? Lol, this is a broken record of many and I am only two years in.


09-10-2017, 02:18 PM,
RE: The "find his car" Conundrum
Good Sunday morning to all! I pray all our friends in FL are weathering the storm safely today! Been doing some serious considering on the D. Preston foreward and realized something...

It isn't the 'car'!...It isn't the 'university'!...It isn't the 'museum'!...It's "WHERE" it would be found!...It's the 'final' clue to the 'huge' location which one determines by the 1st two clues...Think of it as a 10th and 'final' clue which would ONLY have become evident upon his carrying out his original plan...

There is only one common element in all...It's "WHERE" it would be found!...It's the 'parking lot'!...

There is a 'parking lot' at the site(where his car would be found) which is "below the home of Brown" and now you start walking!...Just gotta figure out the direction "from there" that is "no place for the meek" and leads to "the end" which "is ever drawing nigh"!...

Clues are in order, contiguous...He did say later clues were easier...KISS...

Go ahead and laugh if you think this is too simple an idea...But just because FF used the term "the home of Brown", he never inferred anyone or anything ever actually lived there...

I think of it more as an 'eternal' home, someplace special and dear to him...After all he would 'inter' himself with the chest somewhere near, and he didn't need to walk all that far apparently since he made the trip twice from his car in one afternoon...And MOST of the places the clues refer to did exist when he was a kid, but NOT ALL of them...

Maybe the 'parking lot' is a later addition that didn't exist at this site when he was a kid?...It could be that not too many years ago one would need to walk an existing trail some distance to even get to the area...That maybe even roads to access the place are a more recent addition...

Things to think about my friends...But only after you nail down the first clue and can get as close as the little child from anywhere...Until then, just keep the deck handy...See ya's!
09-10-2017, 02:41 PM,
RE: The "find his car" Conundrum
"The final clue, he said, would be where they found his car: in the parking lot of the Denver Museum of Nature and Science."

1. So Forrest reads the forward to his own book, written by Preston, a good friend of his. Forrest thinks, okay, that's clear with me. He's fine with everything Preston is saying. Let's print the books with that in it, so that everyone can see.

- You know that Forrest is fine with printing this. So do you think that Forrest is also accepting that he's cool with just putting out the real "final clue"? Just like that?

- Or do you think that the "final clue" is not the 9th, or even the 10th, but something else entirely?

- Do you think that he's just throwing in the towel to the first person who goes and picks up the treasure? Even after he is quoted as saying to be wary of anything outside of the poem and the book?

- Do you also think that he intends for his car to be found and towed away on the day that he left it there, possibly even before he placed the treasure and died, since overnight parking is not permitted and it would be confiscated? So... after he is interred, the car is gone at the supposed final clue location? Peggy or Shiloh or somebody would need to deal with the car.

2. So do you think that the final clue is in the parking lot of DMNS, even though his car is gone, and that you can find this final clue with the poem, and yet somehow that location, that parking lot, will somehow be able to instruct you how to get to the actual chest location, because you don't really think that his rotting body is within a "few miles" of the parking lot (supposedly to stay secret for hundreds of years in Denver), which of course is also not "in the mountains" at all, is it?

3. Have you watched how Forrest and Preston interact with each other on the videos? Is it all seriousness and business? That's not what I see- rather lots of interrupting and humor. I'll say that again. Humor.

4. Look at the statement:

"The final clue, he said, would be where they found his car: in the parking lot of the Denver Museum of Nature and Science."

Wow, the sentence is the whole paragraph. Just sitting there like that, not relating to much else. An aberration, a monadnock. It's just blurted out. Doesn't that tell you something?

I could go on and on, but I think that's enough.

But wait a minute- when I stand in the parking lot there, as I have so many times, I can see and smell pine trees (nice Ponderosas), I can see animals (though they be bronze wolves and mastadon, with fiberglass dinosaurs), I can see mountains (in the hazy distance)...everything but sagebrush, I think.

I wonder if I'm going to see someone out in that parking lot with a metal detector scanning the asphalt. "I've done it tired"- it's under the tires on the lot.

09-10-2017, 03:44 PM,
RE: The "find his car" Conundrum
there's a big difference between the two comments

one is very unreliable. we dont know what was said or meant, or if it was said at all. and we know that f was not happy with multiple errors in the journalist's reporting

the second one was essentially ok'd by F himself

09-10-2017, 06:38 PM,
RE: The "find his car" Conundrum
He's just making it too easy now.

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