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bears
10-11-2017, 07:48 PM,
#11
RE: bears
Doodlebug, you should keep bumping this thread up, I think you're on to something.
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10-11-2017, 07:51 PM,
#12
RE: bears
(10-11-2017, 07:49 PM)Anna Graham Wrote:
(10-11-2017, 11:25 AM)TrapperJ Wrote: Yeah, I guess you're right. A Fenn searcher is likely at an altitude you probably wouldn't see a rattler. Seems they're being spotted higher and higher, like you're saying.

If you're in Grizzly country you should take the proper precautions.

I was in close proximaty to a rattle snake in July at about 7600 feet.

It looks like you have a "good map!"
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10-11-2017, 08:05 PM,
#13
RE: bears
There is a rattler living a very happy life at 8300' on Palomas peak, east of Albuquerque. Climbers are usually encountering it in the summer and it almost got me once.
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10-11-2017, 08:07 PM,
#14
RE: bears
(10-11-2017, 08:05 PM)brubr Wrote: There is a rattler living a very happy life at 8300' on Palomas peak, east of Albuquerque. Climbers are usually encountering it in the summer and it almost got me once.

That's not in the mountains north of Santa Fe
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10-11-2017, 08:34 PM,
#15
RE: bears
(10-11-2017, 08:07 PM)John Brown Wrote:
(10-11-2017, 08:05 PM)brubr Wrote: There is a rattler living a very happy life at 8300' on Palomas peak, east of Albuquerque. Climbers are usually encountering it in the summer and it almost got me once.

That's not in the mountains north of Santa Fe

Sigh. I was trying to indicate the altitude range at which I have found rattlesnakes. Point is - they can be found up to 11000 feet, according to the San Diego Zoo. And I'm pretty sure the mountains north of Santa Fe include those elevations.
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10-11-2017, 08:44 PM,
#16
RE: bears
(10-11-2017, 08:34 PM)brubr Wrote:
(10-11-2017, 08:07 PM)John Brown Wrote:
(10-11-2017, 08:05 PM)brubr Wrote: There is a rattler living a very happy life at 8300' on Palomas peak, east of Albuquerque. Climbers are usually encountering it in the summer and it almost got me once.

That's not in the mountains north of Santa Fe

Sigh. I was trying to indicate the altitude range at which I have found rattlesnakes. Point is - they can be found up to 11000 feet, according to the San Diego Zoo. And I'm pretty sure the mountains north of Santa Fe include those elevations.

Sigh. They don't exist at those altitudes north of santa fe. At least I have never heard of one that high. They can't handle the temperature. As the temperatures increase with climate change they are moving higher.
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10-11-2017, 08:49 PM,
#17
RE: bears
Can you cite a reference for that statement, or is that simply your opinion? If your opinion, I think I will rely on the herpetologists with the San Diego Zoo and go out prepared.
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10-11-2017, 08:53 PM,
#18
RE: bears
These guys say te western diamond back is found at elevations up to 7,000'.
https://www.desertusa.com/reptiles/weste...snake.html

these guys say the western diamond back is found at elevations up to 6,500'
https://www.desertmuseum.org/kids/oz/lon...esnake.php

I've found them at 8,000' and that is in the mountains north of santa fe. They don't go substantially higher than that north of santa fe. It is too cold for them, but that is changing because of climate change.
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10-11-2017, 08:57 PM,
#19
RE: bears
(10-11-2017, 08:53 PM)John Brown Wrote: These guys say te western diamond back is found at elevations up to 7,000'.
https://www.desertusa.com/reptiles/weste...snake.html

these guys say the western diamond back is found at elevations up to 6,500'
https://www.desertmuseum.org/kids/oz/lon...esnake.php

I've found them at 8,000' and that is in the mountains north of santa fe. They don't go substantially higher than that north of santa fe. It is too cold for them, but that is changing because of climate change.

Western diamondbacks are not the only kind of rattler. There are black tails, prairie rattlers, banded rock rattlers, and sidewinders. They all have different ranges. I know the banded rock rattlers (Black and white) and sidewinders are at lower altitudes. I have had the adventure of being chased by a banded rock rattler.
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10-11-2017, 11:19 PM,
#20
RE: bears
I have told this story before, but think it applies. I asked my search partner if he was worried about bears, he said "no, I know I can run faster than you". It scared me a bit, since he was right. I use a bear bell and have researched what to do. So, short bit of advice, pick your search partner well......
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