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What kind of fool am I??
10-20-2017, 08:34 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-20-2017, 08:57 PM by Gordon Lightfoot.)
#1
What kind of fool am I??
I mean, was I crazy to think that the chest was hidden here? Just because Fenn lives 2 hours from this gate, and it's used by fishermen in the spring and summer, and by hunters in the fall and winter, and by linesmen who need to keep the electrical lines to Angel Fire up and running....what was I thinking??

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1404/97953...z.jpg?zz=1

http://www.expressuubar.com/websites/uub...4_2423.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vs-okvGvJPA/maxresdefault.jpg

https://castingforrecovery.org/wp-conten...ess-UU.jpg

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10-20-2017, 09:11 PM,
#2
RE: What kind of fool am I??
Nope not crazy , just how you expressed it before you had it in hand.

But if this is your spot, where are all the trees that got you disoriented by and terrain? Is this actually your spot? Maybe I am remembering wrong?
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10-20-2017, 09:19 PM,
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RE: What kind of fool am I??
@Kpro

This place has everything, I had to drive 45 minutes from the gate with the snow on it to reach Aqua Fria Lake....oh, the forests are there, and lots of them, and vast open lands for Elk hunting.
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10-20-2017, 09:27 PM,
#4
RE: What kind of fool am I??
I have my love solve, the one I think is perfect but no matter how much time I spend there, I can't find it. I have moved on, but think of it fondly all the time.

I think that may be the same situation, though dont know, i dont have it, but am starting again and have a few other leads and solves in work.
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10-21-2017, 08:37 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-21-2017, 08:38 AM by Gordon Lightfoot.)
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RE: What kind of fool am I??
Maybe one day I'll go back to the UU, it's beautiful in Northern NM, the area around the cabin and lake are pretty much empty, you have the whole place for yourself.....the mountains are breathtaking, and it's cool in the middle of Summer up in the 10,000 foot range, behind the cabin lies AFP with open areas in parts, and the forests cover the rest.....my Hidey spot at 9,800 feet has 2 small streams going straight down to the lake where the people who rent out the cabin fish for trout. The two small streams come straight out of the mountain (no paddle up your creek..LOL!!)

And, here's what happens during the fall when Elk hunting season starts....I'm sure that Forrest has visited this place, once or twice since the early 70's, either with friends or his family for fishing and hunting...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mREz8y3unSw
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10-21-2017, 10:53 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-21-2017, 10:56 AM by The Count.)
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RE: What kind of fool am I??
Your not a fool Gordon, you just seem stubborn. Its okay to acknowledge your 5 hour solve was wrong. If you feel strongly about this area I don't see why you can't start over with whatever lead you to this area and re-evaluate your clues again to something a little more solid than brown dirt.

Too many in the chase decide there are correct too soon without reading much of the after poem comments and questions from Fenn. These comments and questions won't point you in the direction but will help you to know what direction NOT to take your solve in. I know you probably don't want to take my advice since I was one that said you were wrong all along, but hey I was once in your shoes where I thought I had it all solved and had to go to the place many times before I knew my solve was wrong, the difference is that was my first 2 months in the chase not my first 2 years. And believe it or not but my place was not far from yours.
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10-21-2017, 02:34 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-21-2017, 03:01 PM by Gordon Lightfoot.)
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RE: What kind of fool am I??
@The Count

It's not Fenn's fault that he took the underwater feature out, it was the 2 deaths....I can't speak one way or another on that one because 2 people died, and that is bad under any circumstances. But, if I had known that the chest wasn't under water, I think I would have checked out both of the holes that the springs came out of, but that wasn't on my mind, but it should have been....I was concentrating on the pool that was covered with Ivy, and was shocked!!! by all the mud on that terrace way up there (just heavy loads and water high?????) maybe?????.....everything else in that whole area around that terrace (small clearing) was bone dry, except for that one spot, lucky me. Or, I might have canceled if I had known that it wasn't underwater.....or, the 2 holes (springs) would have gotten more of my attention, and I would have left that shallow/deep pool alone....from space it looks shallow, but from the ground I couldn't even see it because of the Ivy over it.

I truly believe that it is there, or at least I think that it is......everything points to it......and those 2 holes coming out of the mountain were probably only about less than 50 feet away from me, but like I said, I wasn't thinking about them, I was thinking about the small pool that I couldn't even see on the ground.

Maybe there will be another time for me to go back to the home of Brown, but I don't see it for next year at all.

AFP (volcano) in my mind is the home of Brown, because it provided the materials/sediments that made Moreno Valley's bottom, brown.
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10-21-2017, 11:18 PM,
#8
RE: What kind of fool am I??
Gordon, last time I checked most dirt is brown I don't see how such a thing could be the home of Brown, maybe the entire earth would be the home of Brown with that way of thinking. Plus there's multitudes of extinct volcanoes in the Rockies, there would have to be something pretty special or unique with this one to make it stand apart. I personal excluded underwater from being a hiding spot immediately mostly because I know how the step water ways of the Rockies can change very quickly and how easy the chest could get lost, tipped over, and covered by sediment to never be found even if it is in a shallow pool.

Heres some advice I have given, if you believe it to be there buy a metal detector and take it with you next time, and be sure to give yourself enough time there to cover a large area with it. Its obvious there's not much that will change your mind about this area, but then at lest you will have a peace of mind that you need for your spot.
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10-22-2017, 08:33 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-22-2017, 08:43 AM by Gordon Lightfoot.)
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RE: What kind of fool am I??
@ The Count

Usually the pioneers named a place due to it's physical features......Yellowstone (see below) , Moreno Valley (brown dirt, I'm thinking), Grand Tetons (boobs).............after that (resent history), it was all about naming places after important (special) people. If the Spanish looked at Moreno Valley and named it that, there must have been something special about that sort of "brown" that made them do it. The Spaniards usually named places in that way.

http://yellowstone.net/history/origin-of...ellowstone

If the whole world is covered with brown dirt, then why just that Valley?
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10-22-2017, 11:05 AM,
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RE: What kind of fool am I??
(10-22-2017, 08:33 AM)Gordon Lightfoot Wrote: @ The Count

Usually the pioneers named a place due to it's physical features......Yellowstone (see below) , Moreno Valley (brown dirt, I'm thinking), Grand Tetons (boobs).............after that (resent history), it was all about naming places after important (special) people. If the Spanish looked at Moreno Valley and named it that, there must have been something special about that sort of "brown" that made them do it. The Spaniards usually named places in that way.

http://yellowstone.net/history/origin-of...ellowstone

If the whole world is covered with brown dirt, then why just that Valley?
Yeah I understand how some places get there names and there is a possibility that some of the places the clues refer to have names that may help you find them but I doubt that's what was in Fenns mind while constructing the clues, there is even a quote by Fenn on the subject, aswell as Spanish. I've already suggested in the past that you look up the quotes either way its doubt to change you mind about your area so do your best to enjoy your next trip.
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