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If the blaze doesn't face north,south,east, or west...
11-05-2017, 03:42 PM,
#21
RE: If the blaze doesn't face north,south,east, or west...
(11-05-2017, 02:14 PM)Gordon Lightfoot Wrote: And, And, if we all think that it is some kind of picture/image/writing on a rock, wall, or on a tree or wood of some kind, then it must be facing something, right? (direction)

But, Fenn said that it was a single object, like standing alone by itself, and it wouldn't be practical to move it.....hmmm?

I guess that it could be a pile of rocks in a circle, but why wouldn't they be feasible to move, like it would take too much effort/money to do it.

GL, you keep stating “Fenn said it was a single object” but he didn’t answer “Yes” to that question. He answered, “In a word, yes”. There is a reason he answered this way.

If using the correct word, the blaze can be referred to as a single object but his definition and our usage needs to go beyond that and you can only determine the true meaning once you put BOTG. That’s why you’ve “been wise and found the blaze.” It’s also why he refused to answer the question of whether the blaze could be determined from the poem before putting BOTG.

The clues will lead you to the blaze but you won’t understand how the blaze helps you find the chest until you’ve seen it. Since the blaze helps you locate the chest and the chest is near the blaze, you just need to find the blaze—which is hard to miss once you’ve found HOB. Remember his statement that once you find the blaze, the distance to the treasure will be obvious?

Headed out soon; wish me luck.
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11-05-2017, 03:57 PM,
#22
RE: If the blaze doesn't face north,south,east, or west...
(11-05-2017, 03:42 PM)Sourdough Wrote: Headed out soon; wish me luck.

Best of luck, and stay safe!
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11-05-2017, 04:42 PM,
#23
RE: If the blaze doesn't face north,south,east, or west...
The earth does have a direction because of its spin axis: true north.

Mr. Fenn,
Which direction does the Blaze face? North, South, East or West? Curious. Foxy

I didn’t take a radial off of the blaze Foxy. I’m thinking it may not be any of those directions. f

He could just be being cagey, it could face in one of those directions and he still isn't lying.
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11-05-2017, 06:09 PM,
#24
RE: If the blaze doesn't face north,south,east, or west...
(11-05-2017, 03:42 PM)Sourdough Wrote:
(11-05-2017, 02:14 PM)Gordon Lightfoot Wrote: And, And, if we all think that it is some kind of picture/image/writing on a rock, wall, or on a tree or wood of some kind, then it must be facing something, right? (direction)

But, Fenn said that it was a single object, like standing alone by itself, and it wouldn't be practical to move it.....hmmm?

I guess that it could be a pile of rocks in a circle, but why wouldn't they be feasible to move, like it would take too much effort/money to do it.

GL, you keep stating “Fenn said it was a single object” but he didn’t answer “Yes” to that question. He answered, “In a word, yes”. There is a reason he answered this way.

If using the correct word, the blaze can be referred to as a single object but his definition and our usage needs to go beyond that and you can only determine the true meaning once you put BOTG. That’s why you’ve “been wise and found the blaze.” It’s also why he refused to answer the question of whether the blaze could be determined from the poem before putting BOTG.

The clues will lead you to the blaze but you won’t understand how the blaze helps you find the chest until you’ve seen it. Since the blaze helps you locate the chest and the chest is near the blaze, you just need to find the blaze—which is hard to miss once you’ve found HOB. Remember his statement that once you find the blaze, the distance to the treasure will be obvious?

Headed out soon; wish me luck.


The Flyers Monument faces NW and is read facing SE, you cant read it from 12' away. The stones are painted white and the plaque is cold Bronze. Nobody knows it is there, it has been forgotten by time. The few that know it is there don't know it's significance. The Monument is split between Heavy Loads and Water High, its half between the two, thus you have been wise (splitting between the two)like Solomon. The treasure is buried there at the precise point at your feet when you read the Blaze and realize the meaning it may have to Forrest. But, then you realize that he said the treasure isn't related to a structure so you go home with nothing but a vacation.

The 2011 google earth image of the location with a 17' blue X gave you confidence but all of Fenns comments have to fit the treasure location.
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11-05-2017, 07:31 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-05-2017, 07:31 PM by fundamental design.)
#25
RE: If the blaze doesn't face north,south,east, or west...
(11-05-2017, 06:09 PM)ChasingScant Wrote:
(11-05-2017, 03:42 PM)Sourdough Wrote:
(11-05-2017, 02:14 PM)Gordon Lightfoot Wrote: And, And, if we all think that it is some kind of picture/image/writing on a rock, wall, or on a tree or wood of some kind, then it must be facing something, right? (direction)

But, Fenn said that it was a single object, like standing alone by itself, and it wouldn't be practical to move it.....hmmm?

I guess that it could be a pile of rocks in a circle, but why wouldn't they be feasible to move, like it would take too much effort/money to do it.

GL, you keep stating “Fenn said it was a single object” but he didn’t answer “Yes” to that question. He answered, “In a word, yes”. There is a reason he answered this way.

If using the correct word, the blaze can be referred to as a single object but his definition and our usage needs to go beyond that and you can only determine the true meaning once you put BOTG. That’s why you’ve “been wise and found the blaze.” It’s also why he refused to answer the question of whether the blaze could be determined from the poem before putting BOTG.

The clues will lead you to the blaze but you won’t understand how the blaze helps you find the chest until you’ve seen it. Since the blaze helps you locate the chest and the chest is near the blaze, you just need to find the blaze—which is hard to miss once you’ve found HOB. Remember his statement that once you find the blaze, the distance to the treasure will be obvious?

Headed out soon; wish me luck.


The Flyers Monument faces NW and is read facing SE, you cant read it from 12' away. The stones are painted white and the plaque is cold Bronze. Nobody knows it is there, it has been forgotten by time. The few that know it is there don't know it's significance. The Monument is split between Heavy Loads and Water High, its half between the two, thus you have been wise (splitting between the two)like Solomon. The treasure is buried there at the precise point at your feet when you read the Blaze and realize the meaning it may have to Forrest. But, then you realize that he said the treasure isn't related to a structure so you go home with nothing but a vacation.

The 2011 google earth image of the location with a 17' blue X gave you confidence but all of Fenns comments have to fit the treasure location.

Where is the Flyers Monument?
-.-..The keeper of the key
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11-05-2017, 07:33 PM,
#26
If the blaze doesn't face north,south,east, or west...
The earth being round and spinning on its axis doesn’t point a direction.
A compass being its own device points true north


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11-05-2017, 07:34 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-05-2017, 07:37 PM by John Brown.)
#27
RE: If the blaze doesn't face north,south,east, or west...
(11-05-2017, 08:33 AM)OH! Wrote:
(11-04-2017, 08:10 PM)will197532 Wrote: Circle objects doesn’t have a direction of degrees


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Huh? Isn't the world round? And last time I heard, north was up. A ball of yarn has a direction no matter where it's at.

I remember when I had a class full of Texas college students. Our class room had a north-facing window. I asked them which way north was and they all pointed skywards. It hadn't occurred to me that an entire class could think north was up. I thought they would point north out the freaking window. We were in Texas though, so there's that to consider.

(11-05-2017, 07:33 PM)will197532 Wrote: The earth being round and spinning on its axis doesn’t point a direction.
A compass being its own device points true north


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Earth's angular momentum vector, being a vector, does indeed have a direction. A compass does not point true north. It points to magnetic north. The relationship between true north and magnetic north varies with time and location on the globe. Thus Forrest put the magnetic declination lines on the map in TFTW.
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11-05-2017, 08:32 PM,
#28
RE: If the blaze doesn't face north,south,east, or west...
(11-05-2017, 07:47 PM)admin Wrote: John you just made me understand true north(ok cc class... don't laugh).

So my question is.....how does true north change in a day....year...thousand years....when does north become south?

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Every 200,000-300,000 years but it has been more than twice that long since the last time. It happens over hundreds or thousands of years.

https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/featur...ersal.html
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11-05-2017, 08:40 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-05-2017, 09:12 PM by Beavertooth.)
#29
RE: If the blaze doesn't face north,south,east, or west...
(11-05-2017, 07:47 PM)admin Wrote: So my question is.....how does true north change in a day....year...thousand years....when does north become south?

Geophysicists expect a reversal of north and south magnetic poles in a few thousand years. ("soon"). Apparently this happens every 500,000 years or so, and we are now due for a change.

In any given year, the magnetic pole shifts by about ten miles. The flip, however, is more of a fade out of the old pole, followed by a fade in of the reverse pole.

For more info, see:

https://www.physics.org/facts/frog-magnetic-field.asp



Montana's airway beacons also qualify as blazes and do not have a direction per se:
"Night-time Lighted Airway Beacons
The night-time lighted airway beacon system is unique to the state of Montana. In the 1920s and 1930s, radio navigation for aircraft was virtually non-existent. Instead, early pilots relied upon a system of federally operated lighted airway beacons. Some of these beacons were quite literally bonfires, lighted and stoked by hardy patrons. Electronic bulbs later replaced the bonfires, lighting airway corridors across mountains and plains for pilots to follow at night and during inclement weather. As technology improved, airway beacons became a thing of the past. The Aeronautics Division continues to maintain the MacDonald Pass, Spokane and Strawberry beacons. These 3 beacons, along with the airport beacons at the Helena, Townsend and Bozeman airports, will provide nostalgic aviators the opportunity to experience a segment of the historic Northern Transcontinental Airway Route and Montana will keep its place in history as the only state in the nation to maintain any navigable segment of the airway beacon system."

On the other hand, the series of giant concrete arrows used by early aviators to navigate across the country still exist, and could be blazes, but they do point in specific directions. If you don't assume the arrow head direction itself is meaningful, you could say the entire arrowhead is the blaze, and you should look quickly down from there.
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11-05-2017, 09:22 PM,
#30
RE: If the blaze doesn't face north,south,east, or west...
(11-05-2017, 07:47 PM)admin Wrote: John you just made me understand true north(ok cc class... don't laugh).

So my question is.....how does true north change in a day....year...thousand years....when does north become south?

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For your life you can forget about pole flips. Pole flips take a long time (100's-1000's of years). The location of the north magnetic pole moves around a good bit all the time though. Here is what wikipedia says about it.

The North Magnetic Pole moves over time due to magnetic changes in the Earth's core.[1] In 2001, it was determined by the Geological Survey of Canada to lie west of Ellesmere Island in northern Canada at 81.3°N 110.8°W. It was situated at 83.1°N 117.8°W in 2005. In 2009, while still situated within the Canadian Arctic territorial claim at 84.9°N 131.0°W,[2] it was moving toward Russia at between 55 and 60 kilometres (34 and 37 mi) per year.[3] As of 2017, the pole is projected to have moved beyond the Canadian Arctic territorial claim to 86.5°N 172.6°W.[2]
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