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Mud/quicksand/bog, etc.
01-09-2018, 09:06 PM,
#1
Mud/quicksand/bog, etc.
If FF has said that the TC isn't "in a dangerous place", why does there seem
to be so much mention of the thing being under water? I have even seen a
suggestion that waders might be appropriate for a searcher.

When I imagine a three-year-old girl being part of a (family) search party
and "needing a little help" in getting to the TC, it's hard for me to reconcile
this with the little girl slogging through a muddy marsh that is at least
knee-deep for the unfortunate kid.

I like to think that FF chose a hidey spot that is a bit easier to get to,
and I hope he will "chime in" here with some clarification(s) about how
physically easy the BOTG route (say, the last 50 steps for a searcher)
to the TC is.

Perhaps someone has imagined that FF provided "help" for the lucky
solver of the poem . . . perhaps a physical device that might serve as
a "board" or "bridge" upon which to "walk". But I'm not assuming that
FF did this. Instead, I imagine that someone may find the TC, but not
be able to, with "reasonable ease" retrieve it on that same search hike.
Maybe another hike to bring equipment (a "bridge") will be in order . . .
but one should not "litter" the place by leaving the "bridge" there, so
another following hike (after retrieval of the goodies) would also be
wanted.

That's a lot of walking and shlepping, in my opinion. Wouldn't it be
nice -- for the solver of the poem, that is -- to be at the right place
at the right time, and see that a mirror makes the hidey thing (a pot?)
appear at the "correct" dramatic place, even though in fact the TC
is physically more easily reached?
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01-09-2018, 09:51 PM,
#2
RE: Mud/quicksand/bog, etc.
(01-09-2018, 09:06 PM)Andrew Jef Wrote: If FF has said that the TC isn't "in a dangerous place", why does there seem
to be so much mention of the thing being under water? I have even seen a
suggestion that waders might be appropriate for a searcher.

When I imagine a three-year-old girl being part of a (family) search party
and "needing a little help" in getting to the TC, it's hard for me to reconcile
this with the little girl slogging through a muddy marsh that is at least
knee-deep for the unfortunate kid.

I like to think that FF chose a hidey spot that is a bit easier to get to,
and I hope he will "chime in" here with some clarification(s) about how
physically easy the BOTG route (say, the last 50 steps for a searcher)
to the TC is.

Perhaps someone has imagined that FF provided "help" for the lucky
solver of the poem . . . perhaps a physical device that might serve as
a "board" or "bridge" upon which to "walk". But I'm not assuming that
FF did this. Instead, I imagine that someone may find the TC, but not
be able to, with "reasonable ease" retrieve it on that same search hike.
Maybe another hike to bring equipment (a "bridge") will be in order . . .
but one should not "litter" the place by leaving the "bridge" there, so
another following hike (after retrieval of the goodies) would also be
wanted.

That's a lot of walking and shlepping, in my opinion. Wouldn't it be
nice -- for the solver of the poem, that is -- to be at the right place
at the right time, and see that a mirror makes the hidey thing (a pot?)
appear at the "correct" dramatic place, even though in fact the TC
is physically more easily reached?

Andrew, I think you underestimate Fenn. He said he tried to think of
everything.
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01-09-2018, 10:37 PM,
#3
RE: Mud/quicksand/bog, etc.
this is a good post Andrew

i called Ron and let him know about it

i hope you dont mind


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01-09-2018, 10:58 PM,
#4
RE: Mud/quicksand/bog, etc.
(01-09-2018, 09:06 PM)Andrew Jef Wrote: If FF has said that the TC isn't "in a dangerous place", why does there seem
to be so much mention of the thing being under water? I have even seen a
suggestion that waders might be appropriate for a searcher.

Because people are misinterpreting "worth the cold". Waders are useful in one spot along the hike in.


Quote:I like to think that FF chose a hidey spot that is a bit easier to get to,
and I hope he will "chime in" here with some clarification(s) about how
physically easy the BOTG route (say, the last 50 steps for a searcher)
to the TC is.

Perhaps someone has imagined that FF provided "help" for the lucky
solver of the poem . . . perhaps a physical device that might serve as
a "board" or "bridge" upon which to "walk".

Nope.
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01-09-2018, 11:01 PM,
#5
Mud/quicksand/bog, etc.
Good post Andrew. :-)

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01-10-2018, 08:52 AM,
#6
RE: Mud/quicksand/bog, etc.
Anytime I see someone advocating a long walk, a difficult walk, waders, swamps, etc., I think "80 year old guy with back problems."
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01-10-2018, 09:35 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-10-2018, 09:38 AM by VinnieVega.)
#7
RE: Mud/quicksand/bog, etc.
(01-09-2018, 09:06 PM)Andrew Jef Wrote: If FF has said that the TC isn't "in a dangerous place", why does there seem
to be so much mention of the thing being under water? I have even seen a
suggestion that waders might be appropriate for a searcher.

When I imagine a three-year-old girl being part of a (family) search party
and "needing a little help" in getting to the TC, it's hard for me to reconcile
this with the little girl slogging through a muddy marsh that is at least
knee-deep for the unfortunate kid.

I like to think that FF chose a hidey spot that is a bit easier to get to,
and I hope he will "chime in" here with some clarification(s) about how
physically easy the BOTG route (say, the last 50 steps for a searcher)
to the TC is.

Perhaps someone has imagined that FF provided "help" for the lucky
solver of the poem . . . perhaps a physical device that might serve as
a "board" or "bridge" upon which to "walk". But I'm not assuming that
FF did this. Instead, I imagine that someone may find the TC, but not
be able to, with "reasonable ease" retrieve it on that same search hike.
Maybe another hike to bring equipment (a "bridge") will be in order . . .
but one should not "litter" the place by leaving the "bridge" there, so
another following hike (after retrieval of the goodies) would also be
wanted.

That's a lot of walking and shlepping, in my opinion. Wouldn't it be
nice -- for the solver of the poem, that is -- to be at the right place
at the right time, and see that a mirror makes the hidey thing (a pot?)
appear at the "correct" dramatic place, even though in fact the TC
is physically more easily reached?

Anyone can get to it easily (When I say 'get to it' I don't mean discover its hidey space, I mean retrieve it.) as I think it is hidden in a very different location than people assume he means by "in the rocky mountains north of santa fe"


I don't claim to know what he does mean, just IMHO there is a big nut to crack before the cues reveal their true selves.
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01-11-2018, 06:05 PM,
#8
RE: Mud/quicksand/bog, etc.
(01-09-2018, 09:06 PM)Andrew Jef Wrote: If FF has said that the TC isn't "in a dangerous place", why does there seem
to be so much mention of the thing being under water? I have even seen a
suggestion that waders might be appropriate for a searcher.
...

Forrest explicitly stated the chest is not under water.

http://dalneitzel.com/2017/06/29/safety_first/
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01-11-2018, 07:01 PM,
#9
RE: Mud/quicksand/bog, etc.
(01-10-2018, 09:35 AM)VinnieVega Wrote:
(01-09-2018, 09:06 PM)Andrew Jef Wrote: If FF has said that the TC isn't "in a dangerous place", why does there seem
to be so much mention of the thing being under water? I have even seen a
suggestion that waders might be appropriate for a searcher.

When I imagine a three-year-old girl being part of a (family) search party
and "needing a little help" in getting to the TC, it's hard for me to reconcile
this with the little girl slogging through a muddy marsh that is at least
knee-deep for the unfortunate kid.

I like to think that FF chose a hidey spot that is a bit easier to get to,
and I hope he will "chime in" here with some clarification(s) about how
physically easy the BOTG route (say, the last 50 steps for a searcher)
to the TC is.

Perhaps someone has imagined that FF provided "help" for the lucky
solver of the poem . . . perhaps a physical device that might serve as
a "board" or "bridge" upon which to "walk". But I'm not assuming that
FF did this. Instead, I imagine that someone may find the TC, but not
be able to, with "reasonable ease" retrieve it on that same search hike.
Maybe another hike to bring equipment (a "bridge") will be in order . . .
but one should not "litter" the place by leaving the "bridge" there, so
another following hike (after retrieval of the goodies) would also be
wanted.

That's a lot of walking and shlepping, in my opinion. Wouldn't it be
nice -- for the solver of the poem, that is -- to be at the right place
at the right time, and see that a mirror makes the hidey thing (a pot?)
appear at the "correct" dramatic place, even though in fact the TC
is physically more easily reached?

Anyone can get to it easily (When I say 'get to it' I don't mean discover its hidey space, I mean retrieve it.) as I think it is hidden in a very different location than people assume he means by "in the rocky mountains north of santa fe"


I don't claim to know what he does mean, just IMHO there is a big nut to crack before the cues reveal their true selves.

Some tough-to-crack nuts come from Brazil, right?
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