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Fenn's Quoted Poems and ttotc drawings
02-13-2018, 09:44 AM,
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Fenn's Quoted Poems and ttotc drawings
I noticed in almost, not all interviews fenn quotes two poems:
First is one of my favorites INVICTUS
The second is LITTLE GIDDING
I was unfamiliar with little gidding, and it's the parts fenn DIDN'T quote that led me back to Yellowstone
The quote:
We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring 
Will be to arrive where we started 
And know the place for the first time. 

The rest of that stanza:

Through the unknown, unremembered gate 
When the last of earth left to discover 
Is that which was the beginning; 
At the source of the longest river 
The voice of the hidden waterfall
And the children in the apple-tree

The longest river in the Rockies is the snake and it's source according to wikipedia is Yellowstone lake.
And this is where I said "oh, crap!"
As I had already scratched y off my search list. I don't have the book, and it was at this time I realized I could sit here and chase my tail in a dozen places that fit the poems description, but without the book, I was "up a creek without a paddle" so to speak.
There is actually several stories and pictures on the internet that you can find. But it's not the stories that got me, it was the drawings.
First one I got a location on was "my war for me"
Second one was "no place for biddies"
(Second confirmation for me, the Crow word for geyser is bide-mahpe meaning sacred or powerful water)
Third was the marbles picture
And last was the gypsy dancers.
They ALL lined up perfectly with photos I found of park locations. Most of the drawings I could lay over the photos 4-5 times or more and find where they matched up. "biddies" I finally stopped at 8
I havent tried any more yet. This is enough confirmation for me.
And yes, for all of you who said I was making it too difficult, that I needed to simplify, you were right.

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02-13-2018, 09:55 AM,
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RE: Fenn's Quoted Poems and ttotc drawings
This post should trigger some research for the winter!
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02-13-2018, 10:32 AM,
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Fenn's Quoted Poems and ttotc drawings
That's where I was looking the first time, because it was yanceys first

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02-13-2018, 10:57 AM,
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Fenn's Quoted Poems and ttotc drawings
I read a synopsis of little gidding which has more in common with ttotc. It's a very large very deep poem.
Elliot wrote his stanzas in this order
Intro
Burial of the dead
Game of chess
Fire sermon
Reassessment and confirmation
That would put ttotc stanzas in this order
1,2,4,3,5,6
This just IMO
btw, ive read your solve and i agree with most of it. Look at my post of undine falls

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02-14-2018, 07:59 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-14-2018, 08:04 PM by DL167.)
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RE: Fenn's Quoted Poems and ttotc drawings
(02-13-2018, 10:57 AM)geminicesdesigns Wrote: I read a synopsis of little gidding which has more in common with ttotc. It's a very large very deep poem.
Elliot wrote his stanzas in this order
Intro
Burial of the dead
Game of chess
Fire sermon
Reassessment and confirmation
That would put ttotc stanzas in this order
1,2,4,3,5,6
This just IMO
btw, ive read your solve and i agree with most of it. Look at my post of undine falls

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I always thought the map on Page 99 was showing Wraith Falls (just down the road from Undine):

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Wraith Falls (this picture is from the lookout, represented up and to the right above):

[Image: VsM1daj.jpg]

Makes a great blaze, too. A big white spot lol.
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02-14-2018, 10:16 PM,
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Fenn's Quoted Poems and ttotc drawings
In other pictures of undine, you can see a small indention, not quite a cave per say. Just mild erosion, behind and around it, but large enough for a person to get into.

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02-14-2018, 10:46 PM,
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RE: Fenn's Quoted Poems and ttotc drawings
(02-14-2018, 10:16 PM)geminicesdesigns Wrote: In other pictures of undine, you can see a small indention, not quite a cave per say. Just mild erosion, behind and around it, but large enough for a person to get into.

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Well, undines are female beings associated with water, and aren't they on the chest?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undine
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02-15-2018, 11:41 AM,
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Fenn's Quoted Poems and ttotc drawings
Another view of undine with small indentation[Image: cfced9b8af8e2ec38da1aab0aeee8f19.jpg]

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02-15-2018, 01:58 PM,
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(02-15-2018, 11:41 AM)geminicesdesigns Wrote: Another view of undine with small indentation[Image: cfced9b8af8e2ec38da1aab0aeee8f19.jpg]

Isn't there a hidden area behind Undine Falls?
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02-15-2018, 07:59 PM,
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RE: Fenn's Quoted Poems and ttotc drawings
My balls hurt whenever I think of the hike down to Undine Falls. That is one steep-ass cliff.
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